<DIV>the relevant adage here is from an alfred e. neumann/mad magazine textbook cover (i,m aging myself!):</DIV>
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<DIV>" history repeats itself, especially if you flunk it"<BR><BR><B><I>Gus <gustavo@espada.biz></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well said Gary. I think the old saying is that a house divided cannot <BR>stand, which is why if we want to pull the rug out from under the <BR>current system we have to be able to set aside our differences long <BR>enough to grab onto the rug and yank with all our collective strength. <BR>Clearly there are divisions and disagreements on the left. Clearly <BR>there is room for improvement in communication, and (dare we dream) in <BR>building a respectful community that can work together effectively to <BR>advance shared goals. For now, though, why don't we do our best to make <BR>sure O29 is remembered as marking the beginning of a newly energized <BR>movement, or at the very least a positive step in that direction. In <BR>any case I do look forward to meeting you all in person, preferably not <BR>to argue, but to start building the bridges we need to survive together <BR>in
struggle.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 10/7/2005 1:10 PM, gary hicks wrote:<BR><BR>> hi:<BR>> <BR>> it has now become more than apparent that this argument isn't about <BR>> the demands of the march, even though this is how it's being presented.<BR>> <BR>> this argument is all about a bunch of (mostly) white folks purporting <BR>> to be socialists, progressives, etc. who for the life of them can't <BR>> get a handle on the centrality of the struggle against their own <BR>> chauvinisms.<BR>> <BR>> this argument is also about folks with purportedly socialist and <BR>> progressive politics who for reasons known only to god and their cadre <BR>> leaders have GOT TO BE the first kids on their block to come up with a <BR>> correct line on these matters. hence whoever achieves this can go on <BR>> to seize hegemony, power, or whatever elusive bragging rights (or is <BR>> it rites?) and glory as long as folks listen.<BR>> <BR>> finally, ty is more
than right about how it has taken this long to <BR>> come to this point, since at least 911. this is downright pitiful and <BR>> disgraceful. so---------------------<BR>> <BR>> i agree with david that monday night is NOT the time for this <BR>> discussion, since we all know-- yes we do, because we all know how we <BR>> are!-- that there will be no two for, two against a given proposal <BR>> ----------------- but a free-for-all in place of the time needed to <BR>> actually put this event together. and frankly, some of us (myself <BR>> included) who were involved in the march 20 event, and some of us <BR>> (myself not included) in the followup to the december event of last <BR>> year, have all been there done that. and obviously, the april 23 <BR>> conference didn't/couldn't resolve matters because at bottom that <BR>> conference was all about getting together people for a fall action by <BR>> way of a few workshops thrown in--- as though
these latter would <BR>> magically infuse us with the intelligence needed to carry on without <BR>> the hassles which we've been privy to on this past week's emails.<BR>> <BR>> so let's get down to organizing business monday night and check our <BR>> ideologies and egos at the door.<BR>> <BR>> gary<BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>O29 mailing list<BR>O29@massglobalaction.org<BR>http://massglobalaction.org/mailman/listinfo/o29_massglobalaction.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>
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