<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/1/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">robert montgomery</b> <<a href="mailto:ilyenkova@gmail.com">ilyenkova@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
It's important to set the record straight on Vietnam and how the war was ended: <br>
By 1968 the ground war was stalemated. The US knew it couldn't win on
the battlefield and the Vietnamese knew they couldn't drive the
occupiers out without an air force. US strategy shifted to massive
bombing to punish the Vietnamese enough to try and extract concessions
in Paris (negotiations began early in 1968). The only force that
could tip the balance and open things up for the Vietnamese victory was
the antiwar movement here. When Gary suggests that the antiwar movement
here was a secondary factor and that the struggle was really won on the
battlefield he's making a totally false dichotomy between the
Vietnamese resistance struggle and the deepening struggle against the
war here at home. The nationwide student strike in May 1970 threw the
US ruling class into a panic. It was at this point that timid
Congressional "doves" began to make some noise. And this gets to my
central point that the record is clear: Whatever happens in Congress is
an echo or reflection of what's happening in the streets. Today we see
some small temporizing stirrings in Congress because:<br>
1. The war is going badly<br>
2. Opinion polls show growing antiwar sentiment<br>
3. Camp Casey and Cindy Sheehan were front page news for over a month<br>
4. Hundreds of thousands were in the streets on 9/24 demanding "Out Now"<br>
<br>
So the cautious, spineless politicians are beginning to worry about
politics getting out of their control. This is fine; we want them
worried. Hell, we want them in a panic like in May 1970! But it's our
militant mass actions, independent of their support or prescence
(Conyers and Cynthia McKinney notwithstanding) that has them worried.<br>
The LeBlanc proposal Gary supports proposes not simply a tactical
reorientation of the movement, but rather a strategic orientation to
antiwar organizing diametrically opposed to our own. One orientation
holds that real power resides in Congress and our function is to
leverage the tepid liberal initiatives along by supportively lobbying
"set a date" politicians. The other orientation believes the real power
lies in deepening and broadening mass opposition to the war by
continuing to build a politicallly independent movement based on mass
action with a principled demand that supports the fundamental right of
the Iraqi people to self-determination. That demand can only be for the
immediate withdrawal of all US forces from Iraq. <br>
Bob Montgomery<div><span class="e" id="q_106ad5bf9fcf9c25_1"><br>
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/1/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Brian O'Connell</b> <<a href="mailto:vinniechops@hotmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">vinniechops@hotmail.com
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I have to weigh in here and say that going along with a timetable and<br>leaving the war pullout to corporate loving John Kerry,Ted Kennedy and<br>Hillary Clinton does not appeal to me at all. Leave the war to the<br>politicians? No thanks.
<br><br>If we arn't going to demand an end to war and the pursuit of peace NOW then<br>when are we going to do it? Who's going to do it? The next generation? The<br>one after that? Or maybe the one after that? We probably don't have too many
<br>generations left if we don't cure the scourge of war and injustice. If we<br>don't seriously take on the military industrial complex with clear demands<br>then we won't have much influence.<br><br>The message, "a sane and just world is possible, we have the power" can be
<br>sold to the American public, we just have to create a new protest culture to<br>get them down to the market. I want to sell them real Peace, not plastic<br>Congressional Peace.<br><br>If someone had me on the ground with a boot to my neck I'd probably want
<br>them to take it off NOW. . . I wouldn't say to my assailiant, "Please sir,<br>lighten up the pressure in about ten minutes, thank you sir".<br><br>Also, on the issue of including a demand in solidarity with Arabs and
<br>Muslims. For me that's a no brainer . . .Of course we should be reaching out<br>to that community.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Brian O'Connell<br>cell: 617-947-8983<br>home: 617-364-9746<br><a href="mailto:vinniechops@hotmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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